Personalized Healthcare and the Technologies Reshaping Medicine
In this episode, Haylie Pomroy is joined by Roxy Pirnia, Chief Operating Officer of EverHealth, to talk about moving healthcare toward a preventative model and what it looks like to take more control of your own health.
Roxy shares why the shift is happening now, how at-home lab testing and personalized data can point to root causes instead of masking symptoms, and her own experience reversing polycystic ovarian syndrome with the help of a naturopath.
Together, they discuss why prevention now means managing stress and toxic exposure as much as avoiding disease, how the body creates balance under pressure, and how AI and virtual platforms could make care more accessible.
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Roxy Pirnia has over 15 years of experience developing innovative approaches to address complex challenges and identifying and scaling impactful solutions that can transform lives and communities. As the Chief Operating Officer of EverHealth, a health and wellness technology company, she oversees operations, strategy, and partnerships, with a focus on moving healthcare toward a preventative model through proprietary programs and technologies and a network of health professionals dedicated to integrative approaches to healthcare. With a background in Education Policy and Management and extensive experience in nonprofit management, Roxy also brings strong workshop facilitation, youth mentoring, and community service skills, fostering collaboration, engagement, and leadership among diverse stakeholders.
Website: https://www.everhealthusa.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roxypirnia
Haylie Pomroy, Founder and CEO of The Haylie Pomroy Group, is a leading health strategist specializing in metabolism, weight loss, and integrative wellness. With over 25 years of experience, she has worked with top medical institutions and high-profile clients, developing targeted programs and supplements rooted in the "Food is Medicine" philosophy. Inspired by her own autoimmune journey, she combines expertise in nutrition, biochemistry, and patient advocacy to help others reclaim their health. She is a New York Times bestselling author of The Fast Metabolism Diet.
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Edited Transcript
Haylie Pomroy: You guys, today I am leaning into the fact, period, that I want everybody to have education and personal empowerment in your health and wellness. And so I have asked the Chief Operating Officer at EverHealth to come join us today. EverHealth is focused really on transforming health care into a preventative model. Gee, gosh, wouldn’t that be an amazing thing? They use a lot of different proprietary programs, technologies, and a network of different health professionals. Pulling, like I always say, a clinic without walls, pulling from every aspect that we can, because don’t forget, you guys, you guys are unique and biodiverse and dynamic, having complex issues right now. So let’s get to the bottom of it. Roxy Pirnia, thank you so much for being here today. I really appreciate it.
Roxy Pirnia: Thank you for having me. I’m excited.
Haylie Pomroy: I know this is going to be cool. We started chatting a little bit before, and I’m like, no, wait, let’s turn on the camera.
I gave kind of a basic description of what you guys, what you do. But tell me a little bit about EverHealth, and tell me a little bit about really this, I think, this life-changing conference that you guys have.
Roxy Pirnia: Yes, we’re really on a mission to move our health care system to a preventative model. Many of us, I know your listeners know, we’re frustrated; we’re not getting better. And unfortunately, when we go to maybe a traditional practitioner through the traditional health care model, we’re sometimes given a blood test, and it’s just a drug, and it’s kind of like, then you move on with your day. And what we’re really trying to do is to flip that to where we’re addressing root causes. We’re not just band-aiding symptoms, and we’re showcasing really amazing cutting-edge technologies, products, and programs that can help people become preventative and proactive with their health. And so one of the ways we do that is we work with holistic practitioners, naturopaths, chiropractors, all the practitioners who are looking to become more preventative and proactive with their patients. And we help them with the integration of the technologies and products. We help them with finding the best of the best that’s out there and then also with educating their patients. We have some platforms that can help to educate patients.
We also do this through our Changing Life & Destiny Conference, which is our annual conference where we bring together really the practitioners as well as consumers, activists, anyone who’s out there who’s like, I’m thirsty to learn more. I want to know what’s going on. And we come together, and we learn, and we experience hands-on a lot of the top technologies and products in holistic health.
We’re kind of attacking it at all different places in all different ways, both B2B with practitioners as well as direct to consumers, because we know that to have a revolution in health care and to change the system, it has to be a grassroots movement. We’ve seen it, and we’ve tried to address it. We all know the pharmaceutical powers that be. There’s a lot of money there. We kind of have to, as a community, come together and say, no, this is the direction we want to go, and start driving it that way.
Haylie Pomroy: I love what you just said. I was interviewing somebody actually this last week, and he is a professor at the medical school at Harvard, and he’s actually been involved in teaching medical students for the last 40 years. And he said the coolest thing to me, which is: we have to change the practitioner as they learn, the practitioner as they relearn. And there may be a lot of ethical reasons why we need to do it, but the number one reason why we have to do it is because the consumer is demanding it. And I went, wow, because it’s been, it’s been a really long time. This will be 30 years I’ve been in practice. I was kicking down doors to get people to talk about energy medicine, nutrition, micronutrients, how our food integrates. I was teaching a class when my... I was, 26 years ago, I was pregnant with my son, on the gut microbiome, 26 years ago, begging doctors to listen. And now all the top universities and hospitals are starting to do some research associated with it.
But to your point, what’s the motivation? What’s the inspiration? I’m hoping that it is because the patient is demanding it, or the consumer is demanding it.
But until they straighten things out, or if they ever straighten things out, time is of the essence. And so we have to find solutions right now. Someone also said to me in our interviews last week: live every day like it’s your last, because one day you’re going to be right.
Roxy Pirnia: Wow. That’s it.
Haylie Pomroy: Yeah, that’s it. Right? Let’s do this.
Let’s do this.
Roxy Pirnia: Let’s do it.
Haylie Pomroy: I know. I feel like I’ve been doing this, like, I feel old in the practice in the sense that, like I said, it’ll be 30 years. When I first started, and I was doing non-cognitive biofeedback and homeopathy and herbs and Ayurvedic medicine and nutrition, it was like, I remember walking into a perinatologist’s office, one of the highest-risk pregnancy doctors. And he was like, doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter. The body’s going to turn it all into glucose. And he was like, it doesn’t matter. And I’m just like, oh man, you don’t get it. It was, we’re, we’re good friends now because I’m honoring, and I kept showing him how important this was. A family member of his got sick. He suddenly came back to my door because I was on his. But I hate to say it’s changing. I mean, I think it’s changing. I hope it’s changing.
What do you think? What do you see in the future? You’re young and excited. And I have to shake myself when I get frustrated and watch people get gaslit, medically gaslit. What do you see? What’s your hope coming into the future of medicine?
Roxy Pirnia: Well, it’s interesting. This company really, this was my dad’s mission for 20-plus years. He started out. This is truly his vision. He started doing this over 20 years ago. He had some proprietary programs. One was a ketogenic diet. And he had a couple of other things, and it just wasn’t sticking, his message. And I think he got a huge investor, and the time wasn’t right. And now, in the last three years, really, I think something has totally changed. And to be honest, I do think a lot of it has to do with COVID. I think COVID really woke people up to the fact that if you’re not taking control of your health, that’s your only option in this system.
Haylie Pomroy: I do too. And I always said, I’ve always been the CMO of my family, the chief medical officer. I just said it’s just the role that I played in our family, whether it’s my parents or my sisters or my kids or my nieces or nephews. But I’m in this industry. So many people had to become the CMO of their family or for their family during this crisis. The other thing was, so we talk a lot about viral reactivation in the immunology space, viruses in general. But the other thing that happened is there are things that trickle in where maybe people have to deal with it on a subliminal or a lower level. And there’s, you’ve got a couple of friends that don’t feel great. Or like my son said the other day, in my practice, people have flown in for years from all over, or I’ve flown in to them, and he said, “Is it the same, or are there more people not well?” And we were walking our neighborhood, and I said, back 30 years ago, people would fly in because what I was doing from a preventative or holistic or a health strategist perspective was needed by people that were really struggling. And I said, now we walk down our cul-de-sac, and about every other house could use it. In real time, everybody’s house could use it from a preventative perspective.
When we’re talking about prevention, I don’t even know. I mean, I don’t know. You’re going to help me shift this. I don’t even know if prevention’s even it anymore. I think we’re in the middle of it. I don’t know if we can prevent it.
We’re in the middle of it. We’ve all had more stress than we have ever had. We’ve all had more exposure to things than we’ve ever had.
We’re kind of unraveling right now. And I may be preventing some of the big, huge heavy hitters, but just preventing stress is almost unheard of anymore. Prevention, when you’re talking about prevention, are you talking about the big diseases: cancers, diabetes, heart disease?
Roxy Pirnia: We’re talking about the big diseases, which are important. But to your point, we’re also talking about how we manage and optimize our health when we’ve all probably got a lot going on already. And so things like stress, to your point, we know stress is one of the number one inducers of disease and a lot of the issues that we face. There are so many brilliant technologies and products these days that are helping people to manage their stress or to just take some time for themselves. I don’t know if you’ve heard of BrainTap or if you use BrainTap. BrainTap is a very common one.
Haylie Pomroy: Yes. And very familiar. And very familiar with infrared saunas, what we call success boosters in our community. Infrared saunas and non-cognitive biofeedback, power plates. There’s a whole variety: massage, acupuncture.
The thing is, what I always tell our community is we’re having this very complex, especially if you’re having an issue, it’s a complex issue; none of us are pill deficient. I was on prednisone, Imuran, CellCept, and Mepron medication for my autoimmune disorder. I made the shift. I had to make the shift when I found myself in the hospital with right kidney failure, and they said, well, gosh, these drugs really aren’t an option for you anymore. Well, that’s a novel idea in my early twenties. So I started creating integrative clinics where we could bring in all different aspects, from wet sock treatments to, I mean, we had it all. It’s kind of cool that it’s, I don’t want to say migrating in, but it used to be considered alternative. Now it’s considered, I think, effective. And I do also think that it became necessary.
I totally agree with you. That is the one thing that came out of the pandemic that was good: we recognized that, one, nobody had all the answers, and two, some of the people that had the answers didn’t know what the hell they were doing. A for effort, that’s what I keep trying to tell everybody, pat them on the back. We had a conference, and it was really interesting. It was one of the docs out of Brigham and Women’s Hospital. And they were talking about long COVID, and they said, “Is the virus gone? Are there particles of the virus, or was it vaccine-induced?” And I went left, right. Like, did somebody just say that in a conference? Because three years ago you would have been out of a job. But I do think that it brought out people’s courage to have conversations about what’s right for their health. And that’s, I think, really important with what you guys do: you guys give us tons of exposure to things, where at your conference, specifically, there’s tons of exposure to things where maybe we’d have to go to probably a hundred different practitioner offices to actually see all of that technology.
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Roxy Pirnia: I think the point you touched on earlier is really important. We are all individual people, and we have our own individual things going on, needs going on. And so we really need to figure out what is right for you. Like, just to be able to get some blood testing done and analyze biomarkers is like the biggest pain. Insurance won’t cover it.
Haylie Pomroy: And not just a pain. I mean, we literally, and I’m talking, we have an intelligent community. We have thousands of people in our community. We all get together. We have a private Facebook group. We have an incredibly intelligent community, and day after day after day, they’re in there saying, my doctor just told me I didn’t need that lab. And I said, well, cool. Did you tell him you’re not into psychic medicine today? You’d actually like real science. Can you please run the frickin’ lab? I mean, like, I don’t care. I mean, you don’t, I don’t know. I get very upset about taking the power away from the patient, personally. That’s a pet peeve of mine. But to that point, there are all of these labs that are out there now that can look at how your body utilizes and supports stuff.
We look at stress or stressors or hormetic events, whatever you want to call it today. We look at toxic exposure and how the body either passively or actively detoxifies. We look at nutrient deficiencies because that can be huge. And then we look at how the body creates homeostasis in a state of chaos, because we’re trying to stay alive at all costs. And sometimes that means we get inflammation. That means we get autoimmune disorders. That means cancer.
Sometimes that’s just the way that the body can stay alive in a tremendously stressful environment. I would say, lean in, be in awe, and then learn all that you can about your body.
What are some of the exciting, you mentioned BrainTap, what are some of the exciting labs that you see out there? There’s some really fun stuff.
Roxy Pirnia: There’s some really fun stuff. I mean, there’s a lot out there now, so you could find a lot of things. We have particularly partnered with AYUMETRIX. I don’t know if you’ve heard of them. It’s at-home lab testing. You get the kit, you do what you need to do. But the exciting part, I think, is that once you have that information, the question is, what do you do with it? And who are you working with to do something about it?
Where we want to really come into play here is to not only provide people with the information, but also have them work with someone, a functional medicine practitioner like yourself, who can really help them to get better.
For example, when I was in my twenties, I had polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), and I went to a traditional practitioner, and he was like, you need to go on birth control, and it was the only option given to me. And I was like, there’s got to be another way here. And so I partnered with a naturopath who then just put me on a regimen of supplements, looked at my lab testing, put me on a regimen of supplements. I changed the type of water I was drinking. I fixed up my diet. And six months later, my cysts were completely gone. And I went back to that practitioner that I first went to, who did the ultrasound, and he’s like, oh, your cysts are gone. Cool. And I was like, yeah.
Haylie Pomroy: It’s working really well.
Roxy Pirnia: I was like, let me tell you what I did. Don’t you want to know? And he was like, no, I mean, I think you should still go on birth control. And that was the moment I was like, okay, there’s like a real issue here. And so, and that’s where people want more help.
Haylie Pomroy: It’s so funny because that’s the exact, or not exact, but almost parallel experience for me with my health and hematologists, because I have an autoimmune disorder called ITP. The only thing was, I’m so ornery. I was just thinking about this the other day; maybe as I’m getting older, I’m like, wow, I was feisty. I was just hell-bent on convincing him that there was another way. And he was at the Disney Cancer Center. He was at the UCLA Hematological Oncology Center. And visit after visit after visit, I would bring him stuff. When I wrote my first book, I was like, here you go. Here you go. It’s really cool because now he gives out tons of my books. He’s super supportive and stuff. But I think for the first, like, 10 years of my relationship with him, it was like me bullying him into drawing the labs that I wanted, which is crazy when you’re, when you’re not well. And then bringing him, like, article after article after article. And I made it kind of my mission, which, again, I think about it now, but it was how I developed my career. I just went, I cannot have gone through this just to watch everybody else have this massive chasm between not being well and finding... not just surviving, but thriving. And so I love that you did that, and that it took such a nice chunky period of time, and you had those resources available to you.
In the health space right now, where do you see us if we look out five years from now? I want to... just give me two seconds. I want to back up to one thing on your AYUMETRIX. Can my consumers use those in any state? There are certain states that are real funny about labs, New York being one of them.
Roxy Pirnia: That’s a good question. I actually don’t know the answer to that.
Haylie Pomroy: Okay.
Roxy Pirnia: I can find out.
Haylie Pomroy: Okay, cool. No, that’s good.
When you talked about having labs run at home, I think that’s really, really valuable, and we are seeing more companies do that. We have certified Fast Metabolism Diet coaches, and I actually teach some classes tonight. We do what we call advanced clinicals, where our coaches all come together, we have a volunteer that comes in, and we start cold-client on them, like they’ve never met this person before; they’ve got other stuff. And one of the things that I’m always telling my coaches is: that body is experiencing it 24/7. First and foremost, they should never walk through your door without being a hundred percent believed. And if you don’t believe them, send them somewhere else. You cannot. At least, I’ve had the displeasure of many people, and being at the Institute for Neuro-Immune Medicine (INIM), we work with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). For 10 years, it hasn’t been believed, for years and years and years. One of the gifts in our clinic is that everybody who walks in the door, we believe in them; we are an advocate, period, first and foremost. It is amazing. When I first went there, I just thought, oh my gosh, this is incredible.
We’re also open and receptive and try to be a conduit for all aspects of health, integrative in our space, whether that’s nutrition, supplementation, non-cognitive biofeedback, tapping, breathwork, BrainTap, you name it.
I mean, we have a multicultural, multidisciplinary approach, and we have acupuncture in-house. And I will tell you, it’s not because people in our Institute believed in natural medicine. It was because brilliant people in our Institute weren’t getting the results they needed. And they have access to every drug. And because we’re a research facility, we have access to every drug, even ones that are not on the market yet. And they still weren’t getting the results they needed.
They had to; they were forced to, on behalf of their patients, turn towards these other types of therapies. It’s really cool to see that again later in my career. In the beginning, I went to just a water conference, just to learn about the different types of water and how they hydrate the body, and the bond angles, and the receptor sites, and the hormones, and what’s going on in the female body, the male body, just about water; a salt conference, just to learn about how different salts affect the body. Like, there’s so much that’s out there for people. And that’s what I love about what you guys are doing.
Tell me what you’re excited about in this next conference that’s coming up this next year. I know you guys are already in the works. What’s getting you giddy? What’s going to make your dad proud?
Roxy Pirnia: Every year we’ve doubled our conference in size, in content. And again, I think it goes back to what we’re talking about, which is, like, people are thirsty for this information and for help, and more and more people want to be out at our events and to really understand what’s out there. More than anything, I’m just excited to continue to spread the message, just continue to get people there.
In terms of what’s the future here for us, and then in the company and where we’re going, which I think some people hear and think it’s wild, and some people are really excited about it, we are integrating a lot of interesting technology in terms of the metaverse as well as AI. And I think people hear those things, and they may get concerned, or it is scary, the rate at which AI is changing the game in our world right now. However, we know that if businesses don’t start to integrate AI into what they’re doing, they may not survive. We’re looking at how we integrate AI into healthcare to democratize healthcare further, to help people get the information they need and not always have to go into a clinic or into a doctor’s office. There’s a lot we can do with that. And the metaverse is a really incredible platform for people to not have to leave their home, to be able to attend our conference. We do have a metaverse conference where we can get together and engage with one another without having to be in person, because we know there are a lot of people who can’t get there. We have to add these tools in, and that’s the direction we’re going in, which, I know, again, some people hear, and they’re like, whoa, and some people are like, that’s amazing. Just throwing it out there.
Haylie Pomroy: I’m going to age this for you a little bit. I’m going to tell you that it’s so interesting because back in the day, I started young. Really young.
But before then, growing up, because I had systemic eczema and health issues, I was definitely exposed to a lot of, I mean, my daughter was born at home; the first person that touched her hand, laid their hands on her, was a chiropractor, in the water. And I, as a kid, started chiropractic at two. I mean, it was just in our world and in our family and in our life. But what’s really kind of interesting to me is when you talk about AI in medicine. In our research facility, when I first came in, it was like, we can’t have AI in the science aspect of things, and I’m going, well, there are hundreds of millions of articles on a particular research subject, and at the time we were dealing with COVID. We were looking at spike protein, we were looking at CRPs, we were looking at interleukins, all the different cytokine panels and stuff like that. And I’m like, I’m going to start streaming this all through AI and find out what other countries are seeing and doing. And it was like, people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then all of a sudden people were like, wait, wait, wait.
But it came back from years ago, when I was 19; I was first exposed to what they call quantum medicine. I know you are a little bit familiar with some of that. And quantum physics. And the connectedness that we have. I just think AI is kind of the next generation in cellular communication or energetic communication. I really think that some of this fear that it’s this far-fetched future is almost, from a science perspective, like when we first discovered bacteria. It’s like, it was there all along. We all knew it was there all along, but until Pasteur found it, we didn’t, couldn’t identify it and call it something. And I think AI in medicine is really going to create connectedness and knock down barriers to access, because we see, we’ll use breast cancer treatment as an example. You can go to the Mayo Clinic, or you can go to MD Anderson, or you can go to Dana-Farber, Brigham and Women’s, and get maybe world-class medical... and maybe at MD Anderson, although Brigham and Dana-Farber are doing a lot of integrative medicine now. We just worked with someone who had a part of the tumor extracted and added to an NK cell and sent down to a clinic in Mexico to do medicine on, not what you would normally see happening, totally different than if you’re in a small town, maybe in Texas or somewhere else, getting a therapy.
Again, those are pharmacological, but that’s the case even with natural therapies or energetic therapies: we have this super strong connectivity that’s happening with AI. I’m not afraid of it. I actually think it is the tangible aspect of quantum medicine, in my opinion.
Roxy Pirnia: But that’s a really interesting way to put it. I have not thought about it like that.
Haylie Pomroy: It just knocks down the barrier to being connected. And, like, what’s true will resonate, and what’s not true for you won’t. And yeah, but the other thing is, and I wonder how you feel about this, a lot of people in our community years ago, even 10 years ago, would practice different aspects of outside-the-box medicine and not tell their doctor about it. They would be doing Advocin or some sort of light therapy or something, and they would say, I don’t want to tell my doctor about it. I’m afraid to talk to an oncologist about it. In our community, we do a Dear Dr. Sanders letter. Basically, it’s to help you prepare to go into any practitioner’s office, and it’s to help you convey in a very short time your pitch, your story about who you are, what you’re going through, what you’re curious about in your health, and where you need help.
And one of the things I’ve said is, like, if you’re not proud yet of what you’re doing on behalf of your body, outside of what you’ve already been offered, let me be proud for you, and let me help you define this. And more and more and more, you’ll get confident in the fact that you’re taking care of yourself. Again, people had to... people were dropped on their ass, excuse me, people were dropped on their rear ends during COVID when they couldn’t even get in to see their doctor. And a lot of their doctors didn’t know what to do.
We learned that, again: turn in, listen to our bodies, listen to the wisdom of our bodies, and do any and everything that we can that won’t impact it in a negative way. And if we throw a ton of positives at it, something’s going to click.
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Roxy Pirnia: Oh, I love that. I love that. It’s really wild to me that... this is my dad’s vision. My mom is actually a psychologist, and she, 10 years ago, started to integrate neurofeedback and do brain mapping. And she has people who are coming into her clinic on five different medications. And they’re like, “Is this going to hurt me?” They’re asking if red light therapy or if the brain mapping is going to hurt them or cause them problems, but you’re okay to take five medications that have multiple side effects. It’s just that mindset shift that, like, a lot of these things are just going to help optimize and help you accept the nutrients you need, put your body into a state where it can heal. And there’s just so much out there. And I just love what you’re doing because it sounds like you’re really empowering people with the tools and frameworks that can help them to go forward.
Haylie Pomroy: Thank you. Thank you. And I love what you guys are doing, and I appreciate you coming on, and I really want to make sure that everybody can access the conference. I will be there. Tell me how everybody can connect. How can they become consumers of this amazing event?
Roxy Pirnia: Absolutely. If you go to changelifedestiny.com, that is where you’ll get all the information in terms of the conference next year, April 25th to the 27th, at the Hilton Granite Park Hotel. It’s in Plano, Texas, which is North Dallas. And we are just very excited. We’re going to be featuring what we call the Health 100. It’s the hundred companies, technologies, and products that are really revolutionizing holistic healthcare. And so we really pride ourselves on taking the time to look at each company and what they’re doing and not having a million duplicates of everything and multiples of the same kind of technology. We really want to kind of just present one for each category. We really take our time to curate an experience that I think people will really appreciate.
Haylie Pomroy: That’s exciting. I was just going to say, definitely curation, ’cause there’s a lot out there. That’s wonderful. I love that you came on. I just want all of our community to know that if you don’t have the answers, just remember the end of that sentence is yet. If you don’t have the answers yet... Like I always say in my book, the word diet means Did I Eat Today, too. Whatever you want, run faster, jump higher, have twins, whatever it is that you want in your life, use food as medicine, use food as nutrients. But if you don’t have what you want yet, if you’re not feeling outrageously healthy, if you’re not swinging from the chandeliers, if you don’t have an abundance of energy and good mobility, it’s just because you don’t have the answers yet. We’re always trying to bring things for our community to just jump into and take advantage of. And I really appreciate generationally what you’re doing.
We’re a family business. Everything that we create in our family usually has some sort of story, some inspiration from the kids, or detox. I was just sharing with somebody about our 10-day cleanse, that it was created because one of my best girlfriends, we were both nursing our kids, and she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And that was how that one was developed. When there’s a passion behind what you do, it just magnifies the impact that you can make. So thank you. And thank you for jumping on, and we will hopefully connect soon. And I would love, as you guys get closer, maybe we can do some fun podcasts and feature some of the good things that you have going on there.
Roxy Pirnia: Absolutely. I would love that.
Haylie Pomroy: We’ll see you in April.
Roxy Pirnia: See you in April. Thank you so much.
Haylie Pomroy: Wait, just real quick. Tell everybody one more time.
Roxy Pirnia: changelifedestiny.com
Haylie Pomroy: changelifedestiny.com. I’ll see you guys there in April. Until then, make sure that you check them out, get registered, and participate in what they have going on. They’re great things. Everybody, all the stuff that we talk about in our success boosters is there for you. If you’re stuck, it’s just because you haven’t found the results. You haven’t found the solution to get your results quite yet. All right.
Good to talk to you, Roxy.
Roxy Pirnia: Good to talk to you too. Thank you.
In this episode, Haylie Pomroy is joined by Roxy Pirnia, Chief Operating Officer of EverHealth, to talk about moving healthcare toward a preventative model and what it looks like to take more control of your own health.
Roxy shares why the shift is happening now, how at-home lab testing and personalized data can point to root causes instead of masking symptoms, and her own experience reversing polycystic ovarian syndrome with the help of a naturopath.
Together, they discuss why prevention now means managing stress and toxic exposure as much as avoiding disease, how the body creates balance under pressure, and how AI and virtual platforms could make care more accessible.
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Roxy Pirnia has over 15 years of experience developing innovative approaches to address complex challenges and identifying and scaling impactful solutions that can transform lives and communities. As the Chief Operating Officer of EverHealth, a health and wellness technology company, she oversees operations, strategy, and partnerships, with a focus on moving healthcare toward a preventative model through proprietary programs and technologies and a network of health professionals dedicated to integrative approaches to healthcare. With a background in Education Policy and Management and extensive experience in nonprofit management, Roxy also brings strong workshop facilitation, youth mentoring, and community service skills, fostering collaboration, engagement, and leadership among diverse stakeholders.
Website: https://www.everhealthusa.com/
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Haylie Pomroy, Founder and CEO of The Haylie Pomroy Group, is a leading health strategist specializing in metabolism, weight loss, and integrative wellness. With over 25 years of experience, she has worked with top medical institutions and high-profile clients, developing targeted programs and supplements rooted in the "Food is Medicine" philosophy. Inspired by her own autoimmune journey, she combines expertise in nutrition, biochemistry, and patient advocacy to help others reclaim their health. She is a New York Times bestselling author of The Fast Metabolism Diet.
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Edited Transcript
Haylie Pomroy: You guys, today I am leaning into the fact, period, that I want everybody to have education and personal empowerment in your health and wellness. And so I have asked the Chief Operating Officer at EverHealth to come join us today. EverHealth is focused really on transforming health care into a preventative model. Gee, gosh, wouldn’t that be an amazing thing? They use a lot of different proprietary programs, technologies, and a network of different health professionals. Pulling, like I always say, a clinic without walls, pulling from every aspect that we can, because don’t forget, you guys, you guys are unique and biodiverse and dynamic, having complex issues right now. So let’s get to the bottom of it. Roxy Pirnia, thank you so much for being here today. I really appreciate it.
Roxy Pirnia: Thank you for having me. I’m excited.
Haylie Pomroy: I know this is going to be cool. We started chatting a little bit before, and I’m like, no, wait, let’s turn on the camera.
I gave kind of a basic description of what you guys, what you do. But tell me a little bit about EverHealth, and tell me a little bit about really this, I think, this life-changing conference that you guys have.
Roxy Pirnia: Yes, we’re really on a mission to move our health care system to a preventative model. Many of us, I know your listeners know, we’re frustrated; we’re not getting better. And unfortunately, when we go to maybe a traditional practitioner through the traditional health care model, we’re sometimes given a blood test, and it’s just a drug, and it’s kind of like, then you move on with your day. And what we’re really trying to do is to flip that to where we’re addressing root causes. We’re not just band-aiding symptoms, and we’re showcasing really amazing cutting-edge technologies, products, and programs that can help people become preventative and proactive with their health. And so one of the ways we do that is we work with holistic practitioners, naturopaths, chiropractors, all the practitioners who are looking to become more preventative and proactive with their patients. And we help them with the integration of the technologies and products. We help them with finding the best of the best that’s out there and then also with educating their patients. We have some platforms that can help to educate patients.
We also do this through our Changing Life & Destiny Conference, which is our annual conference where we bring together really the practitioners as well as consumers, activists, anyone who’s out there who’s like, I’m thirsty to learn more. I want to know what’s going on. And we come together, and we learn, and we experience hands-on a lot of the top technologies and products in holistic health.
We’re kind of attacking it at all different places in all different ways, both B2B with practitioners as well as direct to consumers, because we know that to have a revolution in health care and to change the system, it has to be a grassroots movement. We’ve seen it, and we’ve tried to address it. We all know the pharmaceutical powers that be. There’s a lot of money there. We kind of have to, as a community, come together and say, no, this is the direction we want to go, and start driving it that way.
Haylie Pomroy: I love what you just said. I was interviewing somebody actually this last week, and he is a professor at the medical school at Harvard, and he’s actually been involved in teaching medical students for the last 40 years. And he said the coolest thing to me, which is: we have to change the practitioner as they learn, the practitioner as they relearn. And there may be a lot of ethical reasons why we need to do it, but the number one reason why we have to do it is because the consumer is demanding it. And I went, wow, because it’s been, it’s been a really long time. This will be 30 years I’ve been in practice. I was kicking down doors to get people to talk about energy medicine, nutrition, micronutrients, how our food integrates. I was teaching a class when my... I was, 26 years ago, I was pregnant with my son, on the gut microbiome, 26 years ago, begging doctors to listen. And now all the top universities and hospitals are starting to do some research associated with it.
But to your point, what’s the motivation? What’s the inspiration? I’m hoping that it is because the patient is demanding it, or the consumer is demanding it.
But until they straighten things out, or if they ever straighten things out, time is of the essence. And so we have to find solutions right now. Someone also said to me in our interviews last week: live every day like it’s your last, because one day you’re going to be right.
Roxy Pirnia: Wow. That’s it.
Haylie Pomroy: Yeah, that’s it. Right? Let’s do this.
Let’s do this.
Roxy Pirnia: Let’s do it.
Haylie Pomroy: I know. I feel like I’ve been doing this, like, I feel old in the practice in the sense that, like I said, it’ll be 30 years. When I first started, and I was doing non-cognitive biofeedback and homeopathy and herbs and Ayurvedic medicine and nutrition, it was like, I remember walking into a perinatologist’s office, one of the highest-risk pregnancy doctors. And he was like, doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter. The body’s going to turn it all into glucose. And he was like, it doesn’t matter. And I’m just like, oh man, you don’t get it. It was, we’re, we’re good friends now because I’m honoring, and I kept showing him how important this was. A family member of his got sick. He suddenly came back to my door because I was on his. But I hate to say it’s changing. I mean, I think it’s changing. I hope it’s changing.
What do you think? What do you see in the future? You’re young and excited. And I have to shake myself when I get frustrated and watch people get gaslit, medically gaslit. What do you see? What’s your hope coming into the future of medicine?
Roxy Pirnia: Well, it’s interesting. This company really, this was my dad’s mission for 20-plus years. He started out. This is truly his vision. He started doing this over 20 years ago. He had some proprietary programs. One was a ketogenic diet. And he had a couple of other things, and it just wasn’t sticking, his message. And I think he got a huge investor, and the time wasn’t right. And now, in the last three years, really, I think something has totally changed. And to be honest, I do think a lot of it has to do with COVID. I think COVID really woke people up to the fact that if you’re not taking control of your health, that’s your only option in this system.
Haylie Pomroy: I do too. And I always said, I’ve always been the CMO of my family, the chief medical officer. I just said it’s just the role that I played in our family, whether it’s my parents or my sisters or my kids or my nieces or nephews. But I’m in this industry. So many people had to become the CMO of their family or for their family during this crisis. The other thing was, so we talk a lot about viral reactivation in the immunology space, viruses in general. But the other thing that happened is there are things that trickle in where maybe people have to deal with it on a subliminal or a lower level. And there’s, you’ve got a couple of friends that don’t feel great. Or like my son said the other day, in my practice, people have flown in for years from all over, or I’ve flown in to them, and he said, “Is it the same, or are there more people not well?” And we were walking our neighborhood, and I said, back 30 years ago, people would fly in because what I was doing from a preventative or holistic or a health strategist perspective was needed by people that were really struggling. And I said, now we walk down our cul-de-sac, and about every other house could use it. In real time, everybody’s house could use it from a preventative perspective.
When we’re talking about prevention, I don’t even know. I mean, I don’t know. You’re going to help me shift this. I don’t even know if prevention’s even it anymore. I think we’re in the middle of it. I don’t know if we can prevent it.
We’re in the middle of it. We’ve all had more stress than we have ever had. We’ve all had more exposure to things than we’ve ever had.
We’re kind of unraveling right now. And I may be preventing some of the big, huge heavy hitters, but just preventing stress is almost unheard of anymore. Prevention, when you’re talking about prevention, are you talking about the big diseases: cancers, diabetes, heart disease?
Roxy Pirnia: We’re talking about the big diseases, which are important. But to your point, we’re also talking about how we manage and optimize our health when we’ve all probably got a lot going on already. And so things like stress, to your point, we know stress is one of the number one inducers of disease and a lot of the issues that we face. There are so many brilliant technologies and products these days that are helping people to manage their stress or to just take some time for themselves. I don’t know if you’ve heard of BrainTap or if you use BrainTap. BrainTap is a very common one.
Haylie Pomroy: Yes. And very familiar. And very familiar with infrared saunas, what we call success boosters in our community. Infrared saunas and non-cognitive biofeedback, power plates. There’s a whole variety: massage, acupuncture.
The thing is, what I always tell our community is we’re having this very complex, especially if you’re having an issue, it’s a complex issue; none of us are pill deficient. I was on prednisone, Imuran, CellCept, and Mepron medication for my autoimmune disorder. I made the shift. I had to make the shift when I found myself in the hospital with right kidney failure, and they said, well, gosh, these drugs really aren’t an option for you anymore. Well, that’s a novel idea in my early twenties. So I started creating integrative clinics where we could bring in all different aspects, from wet sock treatments to, I mean, we had it all. It’s kind of cool that it’s, I don’t want to say migrating in, but it used to be considered alternative. Now it’s considered, I think, effective. And I do also think that it became necessary.
I totally agree with you. That is the one thing that came out of the pandemic that was good: we recognized that, one, nobody had all the answers, and two, some of the people that had the answers didn’t know what the hell they were doing. A for effort, that’s what I keep trying to tell everybody, pat them on the back. We had a conference, and it was really interesting. It was one of the docs out of Brigham and Women’s Hospital. And they were talking about long COVID, and they said, “Is the virus gone? Are there particles of the virus, or was it vaccine-induced?” And I went left, right. Like, did somebody just say that in a conference? Because three years ago you would have been out of a job. But I do think that it brought out people’s courage to have conversations about what’s right for their health. And that’s, I think, really important with what you guys do: you guys give us tons of exposure to things, where at your conference, specifically, there’s tons of exposure to things where maybe we’d have to go to probably a hundred different practitioner offices to actually see all of that technology.
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Roxy Pirnia: I think the point you touched on earlier is really important. We are all individual people, and we have our own individual things going on, needs going on. And so we really need to figure out what is right for you. Like, just to be able to get some blood testing done and analyze biomarkers is like the biggest pain. Insurance won’t cover it.
Haylie Pomroy: And not just a pain. I mean, we literally, and I’m talking, we have an intelligent community. We have thousands of people in our community. We all get together. We have a private Facebook group. We have an incredibly intelligent community, and day after day after day, they’re in there saying, my doctor just told me I didn’t need that lab. And I said, well, cool. Did you tell him you’re not into psychic medicine today? You’d actually like real science. Can you please run the frickin’ lab? I mean, like, I don’t care. I mean, you don’t, I don’t know. I get very upset about taking the power away from the patient, personally. That’s a pet peeve of mine. But to that point, there are all of these labs that are out there now that can look at how your body utilizes and supports stuff.
We look at stress or stressors or hormetic events, whatever you want to call it today. We look at toxic exposure and how the body either passively or actively detoxifies. We look at nutrient deficiencies because that can be huge. And then we look at how the body creates homeostasis in a state of chaos, because we’re trying to stay alive at all costs. And sometimes that means we get inflammation. That means we get autoimmune disorders. That means cancer.
Sometimes that’s just the way that the body can stay alive in a tremendously stressful environment. I would say, lean in, be in awe, and then learn all that you can about your body.
What are some of the exciting, you mentioned BrainTap, what are some of the exciting labs that you see out there? There’s some really fun stuff.
Roxy Pirnia: There’s some really fun stuff. I mean, there’s a lot out there now, so you could find a lot of things. We have particularly partnered with AYUMETRIX. I don’t know if you’ve heard of them. It’s at-home lab testing. You get the kit, you do what you need to do. But the exciting part, I think, is that once you have that information, the question is, what do you do with it? And who are you working with to do something about it?
Where we want to really come into play here is to not only provide people with the information, but also have them work with someone, a functional medicine practitioner like yourself, who can really help them to get better.
For example, when I was in my twenties, I had polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), and I went to a traditional practitioner, and he was like, you need to go on birth control, and it was the only option given to me. And I was like, there’s got to be another way here. And so I partnered with a naturopath who then just put me on a regimen of supplements, looked at my lab testing, put me on a regimen of supplements. I changed the type of water I was drinking. I fixed up my diet. And six months later, my cysts were completely gone. And I went back to that practitioner that I first went to, who did the ultrasound, and he’s like, oh, your cysts are gone. Cool. And I was like, yeah.
Haylie Pomroy: It’s working really well.
Roxy Pirnia: I was like, let me tell you what I did. Don’t you want to know? And he was like, no, I mean, I think you should still go on birth control. And that was the moment I was like, okay, there’s like a real issue here. And so, and that’s where people want more help.
Haylie Pomroy: It’s so funny because that’s the exact, or not exact, but almost parallel experience for me with my health and hematologists, because I have an autoimmune disorder called ITP. The only thing was, I’m so ornery. I was just thinking about this the other day; maybe as I’m getting older, I’m like, wow, I was feisty. I was just hell-bent on convincing him that there was another way. And he was at the Disney Cancer Center. He was at the UCLA Hematological Oncology Center. And visit after visit after visit, I would bring him stuff. When I wrote my first book, I was like, here you go. Here you go. It’s really cool because now he gives out tons of my books. He’s super supportive and stuff. But I think for the first, like, 10 years of my relationship with him, it was like me bullying him into drawing the labs that I wanted, which is crazy when you’re, when you’re not well. And then bringing him, like, article after article after article. And I made it kind of my mission, which, again, I think about it now, but it was how I developed my career. I just went, I cannot have gone through this just to watch everybody else have this massive chasm between not being well and finding... not just surviving, but thriving. And so I love that you did that, and that it took such a nice chunky period of time, and you had those resources available to you.
In the health space right now, where do you see us if we look out five years from now? I want to... just give me two seconds. I want to back up to one thing on your AYUMETRIX. Can my consumers use those in any state? There are certain states that are real funny about labs, New York being one of them.
Roxy Pirnia: That’s a good question. I actually don’t know the answer to that.
Haylie Pomroy: Okay.
Roxy Pirnia: I can find out.
Haylie Pomroy: Okay, cool. No, that’s good.
When you talked about having labs run at home, I think that’s really, really valuable, and we are seeing more companies do that. We have certified Fast Metabolism Diet coaches, and I actually teach some classes tonight. We do what we call advanced clinicals, where our coaches all come together, we have a volunteer that comes in, and we start cold-client on them, like they’ve never met this person before; they’ve got other stuff. And one of the things that I’m always telling my coaches is: that body is experiencing it 24/7. First and foremost, they should never walk through your door without being a hundred percent believed. And if you don’t believe them, send them somewhere else. You cannot. At least, I’ve had the displeasure of many people, and being at the Institute for Neuro-Immune Medicine (INIM), we work with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). For 10 years, it hasn’t been believed, for years and years and years. One of the gifts in our clinic is that everybody who walks in the door, we believe in them; we are an advocate, period, first and foremost. It is amazing. When I first went there, I just thought, oh my gosh, this is incredible.
We’re also open and receptive and try to be a conduit for all aspects of health, integrative in our space, whether that’s nutrition, supplementation, non-cognitive biofeedback, tapping, breathwork, BrainTap, you name it.
I mean, we have a multicultural, multidisciplinary approach, and we have acupuncture in-house. And I will tell you, it’s not because people in our Institute believed in natural medicine. It was because brilliant people in our Institute weren’t getting the results they needed. And they have access to every drug. And because we’re a research facility, we have access to every drug, even ones that are not on the market yet. And they still weren’t getting the results they needed.
They had to; they were forced to, on behalf of their patients, turn towards these other types of therapies. It’s really cool to see that again later in my career. In the beginning, I went to just a water conference, just to learn about the different types of water and how they hydrate the body, and the bond angles, and the receptor sites, and the hormones, and what’s going on in the female body, the male body, just about water; a salt conference, just to learn about how different salts affect the body. Like, there’s so much that’s out there for people. And that’s what I love about what you guys are doing.
Tell me what you’re excited about in this next conference that’s coming up this next year. I know you guys are already in the works. What’s getting you giddy? What’s going to make your dad proud?
Roxy Pirnia: Every year we’ve doubled our conference in size, in content. And again, I think it goes back to what we’re talking about, which is, like, people are thirsty for this information and for help, and more and more people want to be out at our events and to really understand what’s out there. More than anything, I’m just excited to continue to spread the message, just continue to get people there.
In terms of what’s the future here for us, and then in the company and where we’re going, which I think some people hear and think it’s wild, and some people are really excited about it, we are integrating a lot of interesting technology in terms of the metaverse as well as AI. And I think people hear those things, and they may get concerned, or it is scary, the rate at which AI is changing the game in our world right now. However, we know that if businesses don’t start to integrate AI into what they’re doing, they may not survive. We’re looking at how we integrate AI into healthcare to democratize healthcare further, to help people get the information they need and not always have to go into a clinic or into a doctor’s office. There’s a lot we can do with that. And the metaverse is a really incredible platform for people to not have to leave their home, to be able to attend our conference. We do have a metaverse conference where we can get together and engage with one another without having to be in person, because we know there are a lot of people who can’t get there. We have to add these tools in, and that’s the direction we’re going in, which, I know, again, some people hear, and they’re like, whoa, and some people are like, that’s amazing. Just throwing it out there.
Haylie Pomroy: I’m going to age this for you a little bit. I’m going to tell you that it’s so interesting because back in the day, I started young. Really young.
But before then, growing up, because I had systemic eczema and health issues, I was definitely exposed to a lot of, I mean, my daughter was born at home; the first person that touched her hand, laid their hands on her, was a chiropractor, in the water. And I, as a kid, started chiropractic at two. I mean, it was just in our world and in our family and in our life. But what’s really kind of interesting to me is when you talk about AI in medicine. In our research facility, when I first came in, it was like, we can’t have AI in the science aspect of things, and I’m going, well, there are hundreds of millions of articles on a particular research subject, and at the time we were dealing with COVID. We were looking at spike protein, we were looking at CRPs, we were looking at interleukins, all the different cytokine panels and stuff like that. And I’m like, I’m going to start streaming this all through AI and find out what other countries are seeing and doing. And it was like, people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then all of a sudden people were like, wait, wait, wait.
But it came back from years ago, when I was 19; I was first exposed to what they call quantum medicine. I know you are a little bit familiar with some of that. And quantum physics. And the connectedness that we have. I just think AI is kind of the next generation in cellular communication or energetic communication. I really think that some of this fear that it’s this far-fetched future is almost, from a science perspective, like when we first discovered bacteria. It’s like, it was there all along. We all knew it was there all along, but until Pasteur found it, we didn’t, couldn’t identify it and call it something. And I think AI in medicine is really going to create connectedness and knock down barriers to access, because we see, we’ll use breast cancer treatment as an example. You can go to the Mayo Clinic, or you can go to MD Anderson, or you can go to Dana-Farber, Brigham and Women’s, and get maybe world-class medical... and maybe at MD Anderson, although Brigham and Dana-Farber are doing a lot of integrative medicine now. We just worked with someone who had a part of the tumor extracted and added to an NK cell and sent down to a clinic in Mexico to do medicine on, not what you would normally see happening, totally different than if you’re in a small town, maybe in Texas or somewhere else, getting a therapy.
Again, those are pharmacological, but that’s the case even with natural therapies or energetic therapies: we have this super strong connectivity that’s happening with AI. I’m not afraid of it. I actually think it is the tangible aspect of quantum medicine, in my opinion.
Roxy Pirnia: But that’s a really interesting way to put it. I have not thought about it like that.
Haylie Pomroy: It just knocks down the barrier to being connected. And, like, what’s true will resonate, and what’s not true for you won’t. And yeah, but the other thing is, and I wonder how you feel about this, a lot of people in our community years ago, even 10 years ago, would practice different aspects of outside-the-box medicine and not tell their doctor about it. They would be doing Advocin or some sort of light therapy or something, and they would say, I don’t want to tell my doctor about it. I’m afraid to talk to an oncologist about it. In our community, we do a Dear Dr. Sanders letter. Basically, it’s to help you prepare to go into any practitioner’s office, and it’s to help you convey in a very short time your pitch, your story about who you are, what you’re going through, what you’re curious about in your health, and where you need help.
And one of the things I’ve said is, like, if you’re not proud yet of what you’re doing on behalf of your body, outside of what you’ve already been offered, let me be proud for you, and let me help you define this. And more and more and more, you’ll get confident in the fact that you’re taking care of yourself. Again, people had to... people were dropped on their ass, excuse me, people were dropped on their rear ends during COVID when they couldn’t even get in to see their doctor. And a lot of their doctors didn’t know what to do.
We learned that, again: turn in, listen to our bodies, listen to the wisdom of our bodies, and do any and everything that we can that won’t impact it in a negative way. And if we throw a ton of positives at it, something’s going to click.
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Roxy Pirnia: Oh, I love that. I love that. It’s really wild to me that... this is my dad’s vision. My mom is actually a psychologist, and she, 10 years ago, started to integrate neurofeedback and do brain mapping. And she has people who are coming into her clinic on five different medications. And they’re like, “Is this going to hurt me?” They’re asking if red light therapy or if the brain mapping is going to hurt them or cause them problems, but you’re okay to take five medications that have multiple side effects. It’s just that mindset shift that, like, a lot of these things are just going to help optimize and help you accept the nutrients you need, put your body into a state where it can heal. And there’s just so much out there. And I just love what you’re doing because it sounds like you’re really empowering people with the tools and frameworks that can help them to go forward.
Haylie Pomroy: Thank you. Thank you. And I love what you guys are doing, and I appreciate you coming on, and I really want to make sure that everybody can access the conference. I will be there. Tell me how everybody can connect. How can they become consumers of this amazing event?
Roxy Pirnia: Absolutely. If you go to changelifedestiny.com, that is where you’ll get all the information in terms of the conference next year, April 25th to the 27th, at the Hilton Granite Park Hotel. It’s in Plano, Texas, which is North Dallas. And we are just very excited. We’re going to be featuring what we call the Health 100. It’s the hundred companies, technologies, and products that are really revolutionizing holistic healthcare. And so we really pride ourselves on taking the time to look at each company and what they’re doing and not having a million duplicates of everything and multiples of the same kind of technology. We really want to kind of just present one for each category. We really take our time to curate an experience that I think people will really appreciate.
Haylie Pomroy: That’s exciting. I was just going to say, definitely curation, ’cause there’s a lot out there. That’s wonderful. I love that you came on. I just want all of our community to know that if you don’t have the answers, just remember the end of that sentence is yet. If you don’t have the answers yet... Like I always say in my book, the word diet means Did I Eat Today, too. Whatever you want, run faster, jump higher, have twins, whatever it is that you want in your life, use food as medicine, use food as nutrients. But if you don’t have what you want yet, if you’re not feeling outrageously healthy, if you’re not swinging from the chandeliers, if you don’t have an abundance of energy and good mobility, it’s just because you don’t have the answers yet. We’re always trying to bring things for our community to just jump into and take advantage of. And I really appreciate generationally what you’re doing.
We’re a family business. Everything that we create in our family usually has some sort of story, some inspiration from the kids, or detox. I was just sharing with somebody about our 10-day cleanse, that it was created because one of my best girlfriends, we were both nursing our kids, and she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And that was how that one was developed. When there’s a passion behind what you do, it just magnifies the impact that you can make. So thank you. And thank you for jumping on, and we will hopefully connect soon. And I would love, as you guys get closer, maybe we can do some fun podcasts and feature some of the good things that you have going on there.
Roxy Pirnia: Absolutely. I would love that.
Haylie Pomroy: We’ll see you in April.
Roxy Pirnia: See you in April. Thank you so much.
Haylie Pomroy: Wait, just real quick. Tell everybody one more time.
Roxy Pirnia: changelifedestiny.com
Haylie Pomroy: changelifedestiny.com. I’ll see you guys there in April. Until then, make sure that you check them out, get registered, and participate in what they have going on. They’re great things. Everybody, all the stuff that we talk about in our success boosters is there for you. If you’re stuck, it’s just because you haven’t found the results. You haven’t found the solution to get your results quite yet. All right.
Good to talk to you, Roxy.
Roxy Pirnia: Good to talk to you too. Thank you.
